nobody doubt's chuck hagel ses personal courage. that is not at issue. what is at issue his political judgment and what is at issue the signal his nomination sends to some of our adversaris. one of the reasons why we have a problem with iran they don't take us seriously when the president says we'll not let iran get a nuclear weapon. you can hardly think of someone who better sends the message of weakness to the iranians than the nomination of chuck hagel who is consistently opposed sanctions. talked about engagement with iran and opposed the possibility of a military strike which he would be in charge of if he becomes the secretary. jon: as you well know in his first term, the president when campaigning for it, argued we should have direct talks with our enemies, people like iran. jon: this is a nominee who reflects the president's own position. >> that was four years ago and we've been undertaking those talks and presumably there has been some evolution in the president's thinking when he says containment is not an option with iran. when he says all op